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		<title>By: Tripp (Blog Owner)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tripp (Blog Owner)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian-

Unfortunately, we have managers who have never done the work or understand the work making decisions about the work using data with no context.

You are right, if they can&#039;t be with the work all the time, how will they make decisions?  A report is no substitute for knowledge.  These managers should understand that decision-making is better-off with the work and maybe they should stay out of it.  BP probably wishes they had.

I don&#039;t like copying so the analogy was the vast divide not what big companies do.  This is how big companies become like Rome and fall apart unless of course they are too big to fail.</description>
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<p>Unfortunately, we have managers who have never done the work or understand the work making decisions about the work using data with no context.</p>
<p>You are right, if they can&#8217;t be with the work all the time, how will they make decisions?  A report is no substitute for knowledge.  These managers should understand that decision-making is better-off with the work and maybe they should stay out of it.  BP probably wishes they had.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like copying so the analogy was the vast divide not what big companies do.  This is how big companies become like Rome and fall apart unless of course they are too big to fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Iain Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;better decision-making through more data is ludicrous&quot;

Well there&#039;s one kind of extremism and then there&#039;s another. I agree that data without context is inappropriate, but lack of data, or incomplete data surely leads to poor decisions. 

The existence of the SuperWalmart stores you mentioned, and the success of Walmart in general, is due to their organization alignment around data, and the flow of information from stores through the organization and to suppliers. Would the CEO of Walmart be able to manage his multi-billion dollar organization solely through anecdotal reports from Joe store clerk?


Managers should spend time on the front lines. But it&#039;s unrealistic for executives to visit every operation in the company every day. If the did visit a few, it would be undoubtedly useful, but could not represent a complete picture of the business. As such, knowledge gained through on-site visits and departmental visits should become just one part of a complete picture provided by personal experience, aggregated data, and contextual reports by managers and subject matter experts.

Visit http://bibuilders.com/blogs/?p=203 for my full response.  

-IainR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;better decision-making through more data is ludicrous&#8221;</p>
<p>Well there&#8217;s one kind of extremism and then there&#8217;s another. I agree that data without context is inappropriate, but lack of data, or incomplete data surely leads to poor decisions. </p>
<p>The existence of the SuperWalmart stores you mentioned, and the success of Walmart in general, is due to their organization alignment around data, and the flow of information from stores through the organization and to suppliers. Would the CEO of Walmart be able to manage his multi-billion dollar organization solely through anecdotal reports from Joe store clerk?</p>
<p>Managers should spend time on the front lines. But it&#8217;s unrealistic for executives to visit every operation in the company every day. If the did visit a few, it would be undoubtedly useful, but could not represent a complete picture of the business. As such, knowledge gained through on-site visits and departmental visits should become just one part of a complete picture provided by personal experience, aggregated data, and contextual reports by managers and subject matter experts.</p>
<p>Visit <a  href="http://bibuilders.com/blogs/?p=203" rel="nofollow">http://bibuilders.com/blogs/?p=203</a> for my full response.  </p>
<p>-IainR</p>
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		<title>By: Tripp (Blog Owner)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tripp (Blog Owner)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda-

Interpretation can not replace knowledge.  Executives need context by going to the work.</description>
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<p>Interpretation can not replace knowledge.  Executives need context by going to the work.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Tripp.  We see a lot of companies buy into &quot;software is the answer&quot; notion to capture the ever important Business Intelligence.  Many companies also find that a few months down the road, it&#039;s not the magic pill they had hoped for.  True BI requires a specific skill set to analyze and interpret all the data, spreadsheets and reporting that the software spits out.  On the CRM team, we have a VP of Analytics and Client Service (aka our Data Rock Star) who provides Business Intelligence for our customers.  She and her team interpret all of our customers&#039; data, have a keen eye to notice red flags and trends to not only pinpoint problem areas but also suggest strategies to improve and enhance business processes.  Its the special sauce that software just can&#039;t provide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Tripp.  We see a lot of companies buy into &#8220;software is the answer&#8221; notion to capture the ever important Business Intelligence.  Many companies also find that a few months down the road, it&#8217;s not the magic pill they had hoped for.  True BI requires a specific skill set to analyze and interpret all the data, spreadsheets and reporting that the software spits out.  On the CRM team, we have a VP of Analytics and Client Service (aka our Data Rock Star) who provides Business Intelligence for our customers.  She and her team interpret all of our customers&#8217; data, have a keen eye to notice red flags and trends to not only pinpoint problem areas but also suggest strategies to improve and enhance business processes.  Its the special sauce that software just can&#8217;t provide.</p>
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